Not Again Perry! Why I Now Believe Perry Noble is a False Prophet

perry1This comes in late as far as this blog goes, but I actually discussed this on Facebook shortly after it happened.

The reason I wanted to add this about Perry Noble is because by-and-large, the most popular post on this blog is my article on Perry Noble and why I call him a false teacher. I thought it would be nice if I could supplement that post with more information.

Well, well, well. Perry Noble has denied that the Ten Commandments are actually commandments. Rather, they are “promises”. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; this guy is a false teacher who preaches garbage. This one incidence shows his ignorance of Hebrew, Greek, the New Testament, God himself, the Mosaic covenant, and covenant structure just for starters. Don’t be fooled by this guy.

They are indeed commandments given by God which man is required to obey and these commandments and are still binding today.

I’d like to say one more thing about the whole Perry Noble incident. If you’ll recall, he claims that God told him to preach that certain message that morning.

The message centered around a Jewish friend of his telling him that there is no Hebrew word for “commandment”. He then goes on to explain how the ten commandments aren’t commandment at all, rather they’re promises. :-/

I just want to take a second to look at one passage from the New Testament. Ephesians 6:2, “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise).

What!? Paul just called this a commandment? And he said it is the first to come work a promise? Paul just distinguished between two Greek words, one referring to promise and one referring to commandments. They can’t and are not the same thing. Perry disagreed with Paul in his Christmas Eve sermon and claims it came from God. This has officially made him a false prophet in my eyes.

Perry Noble, repent.

After this he did issue an apology. He did apologize for being wrong about the word in Hebrew, and for some of the other things he said, but he didn’t repent from his claim that God told him to preach this false information which is contradictory to scripture. So he’s still a false prophet.

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Why I Believe: Joel Osteen is a False Teacher

  • osteenJoel Osteen endorses Mormonism.

I’m not going to go into detail about how Mormonism is heretical and cultic at this time, but they are. Here are Osteen’s thoughts on Mormonism being a valid form of Christianity.

WALLACE: And what about Mitt Romney? And I’ve got to ask you the question, because it is a question whether it should be or not in this campaign, is a Mormon a true Christian?

OSTEEN: Well, in my mind they are. Mitt Romney has said that he believes in Christ as his savior, and that’s what I believe, so, you know, I’m not the one to judge the little details of it. So I believe they are.

And so, you know, Mitt Romney seems like a man of character and integrity to me, and I don’t think he would — anything would stop me from voting for him if that’s what I felt like.

WALLACE: So, for instance, when people start talking about Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, and the golden tablets in upstate New York, and God assumes the shape of a man, do you not get hung up in those theological issues?

OSTEEN: I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them. And you know, I just try to let God be the judge of that. I mean, I don’t know.

I certainly can’t say that I agree with everything that I’ve heard about it, but from what I’ve heard from Mitt, when he says that Christ is his savior, to me that’s a common bond.

  • Joel mangles Scripture.

In a broadcast he used the following “verse”,

“Long before God laid down the earth’s foundation He had us on His mind. Because of the sacrifice Christ made we are free people and not just barely free but abundantly free.”

Supposedly this is Ephesians 1:4, but you can’t find this verse in any bible translation. The real verse reads something like this,

“even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love”

As you can see Osteen’s distortion of Scripture is WAY off of what the text actually says. It seems as though he creates his own verses to carry out his agenda.

  • Joel claims that Jesus died so we could be free from things like poverty and bad health.

I’ll end the post with this video which discusses many of these things I’ve mentioned.

Why I Believe: Joyce Meyer is a False Teacher

joyceWith many false teachers among us these days, it is important to recognize them and understand what it is that makes them false teachers. I will post a few of these covering many popular teachers and will begin this one with Joyce Meyer.

Let me state that for a while I had never looked into her teachings and was okay with her. I myself did not listen to her teachings or read her books, but I allowed my wife to do so. I later learned of her false teachings and spoke with my wife about the matter and now she no longer reads or listens to her. I must admit it does break my heart to ruin and take something away from my wife, but it is definitely for the best, and she is fine with it also. I’m just a softy I suppose.

My aim is not to go into too much depth, but instead give a brief summary of my reasoning.

  • She’s a woman “preacher”.

    As politically uncorrect as it may be, women are forbidden to hold the position of a preacher. This is evident in passages such as 1 Tim. 2:12-14, 3:2-8; Titus 1:5-7. God is a God of order and balance and he has established order within the family. Even within the Godhead we see order between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

  • She believes Jesus stopped being the Son of God.

    “He could have helped himself up until the point where he said I commend my spirit into your hands, at that point he couldn’t do nothing for himself anymore. He had become sin, he was no longer the Son of God. He was sin.”

    This is untrue and there is no place in Scripture which says such a thing.

  • She believes Jesus was born again.

    “The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again,”

    This is just ridiculous. We are sinners and we must be born again because of our sin. We must be born of the Spirit in order to be saved. Jesus did not need to be saved, He had no sin and was not spiritually dead as unregenerate sinners are.

  • She believes Jesus paid for our sins in hell.

    “He became our sacrifice and died on the cross. He did not stay dead. He was in the grave three days. During that time he entered hell, where you and I deserve to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there.”

    Jesus paid the price on the cross, not in hell. When He said, “It is finished.” He meant it. (Col. 1:20, 2:14; 1 Pet. 2:24)

  • She says that if you do not believe Jesus went to hell, you cannot be saved.

    “His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go… There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth.”

    Joyce is adding to the Gospel where we are told to believe in His death, burial, and resurrection, but nowhere in Scripture are we told to believe that Jesus suffered and was tormented in hell.

  • She believes that the hosts of hell literally on Jesus, laughing and mocking Him while He was supposedly in hell.

    “They were having the biggest party that had ever been had. They had my Jesus in the floor and they were standing on his back jumping up and down laughing. And he had become sin. Don’t you think that God was pacing, wanting to put a stop to what was going on? All the host of hell were upon him. Upon him. Up on him. The angels were in agony.  All the creation is groaning. All the host of hell was upon him. Up on him. They got on him. They got him down in the floor and got on him and they were laughing and mocking. Ha ha ha ha. You trusted God and look where you ended up. You thought he’d save you and get you off that cross. He didn’t, ha ha ha.”

    Where on earth does this teaching come from besides her own imagination? There is absolutely no biblical warrant for this.

  • She believes she is not a sinner.

    “I am not poor. I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I were and if I still was then Jesus died in vain. I’m going to tell you something folks. I didn’t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn’t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that’s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I am righteous and I can’t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time.”

    …Yes you can. In fact, we are. John 1:8 tells us, “If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.” Paul recognizes his own sinfulness in Romans 7:19-20,24. So Paul is a sinner and Joyce is not? I don’t think so.

While this does not exhaust everything about Joyce’s false teachings, I believe it is enough to label her as a false teacher.